Attendance ...

[Focus]

Somebody with the proper software and know-how could edit Sara's flier with this year's dates and it would be good to go. I'll print a stack to distribute at the next event.

So who all is going to our first official cruise in tomorrow? I don't know that we'll gain any new participants from it, but it's good practice at least.

[chuck schultz]

Send it to me

It's on the way.

[Erv]

my brain isn't functioning like it should be, I know I have had ideas. LOL

All good ideas, one thing I think we should all remember, auto x isn't for everyone. We are passionate about it, but, it isn't necessarily every motorists hobby.

[TouringBubble]

How about in Photoshop 5.5 .psd format, 6610 x 10407 pixels?

I lied when I said the other was the original. This is my original scan, and I will email all 17.8 MB to whoever wants it. I think the original artwork was old-school cut-out-a-buncha-dots-to-make-the-gray-from-a-screen, and it looks a bit rough at this resolution.

You can't send a PSD to a vinyl cutter ... =)

But, I'm sure that the "trace Bitmap" feature would work well on that image ... better if the layers are still in tact.

Send it to me ... matt at frame left dot com

[JohnW8]

When I started Autocrossing I had a Miata with mods and I was placed in CSP. I said ok, what's that? Anyway I had my bottom handed to me for a long time and I improved and got a lot of seat time along the way and eventually I started to win a few events here and there. I have spent money on my car because I wanted to try stuff to make it faster and hopefully I could keep up. After several years of this I find myself telling novices to NOT spend a ton of money on your car but spend a ton of time on yourself. Go to other events and compete against better drivers. You will learn and you will get better.

As far as being strict I admit I like to play by the rules if I see someone picking their nose instead of watching the car sliding at them backwards I will yell. If drivers aren't by their cars ready to go in grid, I will yell for them. I have been accused of thinking of others too much, so when you are slow to grid or to start you are holding someone else up. Sorry if it comes across as harsh. We have rules and guidelines to run the events and just as soon as one rule is overlooked or ignored you have stepped onto a slippery slope and control slips away. I hear people saying they want more membership and more attendance, but I propose that if we run our events the best we can in the professional manner of the SCCA and provide folks a place to come play and be safe doing we'll be fine. We're in a down cycle and the economy isn't helping, we don't need to get overwhelmed with van wraps and logo redesigns and marketing strategizing. We have a website that needs some maintenance, not another website, that's only going to confuse anyone interested in playing. We need to put on Autocross events and do it in a professional way. Stickers for club members and t-shirts to sell would be a nice start to promote our club and get the word out.

Another fine way to help the club is come to the board meetings and see what's involved with OUR club. You can help more than you know.

and finally, thank you slowautoxr...

[chuck schultz]

vector logo

How about in Photoshop 5.5 .psd format, 6610 x 10407 pixels?

I lied when I said the other was the original. This is my original scan, and I will email all 17.8 MB to whoever wants it. I think the original artwork was old-school cut-out-a-buncha-dots-to-make-the-gray-from-a-screen, and it looks a bit rough at this resolution.

[dr_phatcity]

"Oh please, you're just whining ..."

We all whine about equipment at some point!!!!!

-Jamie

[dr_phatcity]

"Sorry that all this is harsh but we're big boys and girls here. The club does everything they can to ensure a safe and fun event. So how should the classes and rules be set up so that you can be competitive?"

Easy here now .... the guy is just lamenting the fact that we are strict and harsh etc. Blasting him for stuff that we feel passionately about doesn't really give off that warm and fuzzy feeling, now does it.

Everyone wants to compete. That's why were out here ... the guy wants to be competitive right off the bat ..... we all want to be competitive right off the bat.

We all know that "the most important nut to tighten is the one behind the wheel" ... but, no one is willing to admit that someone else just drives faster. Like everything else in life, it's gotta be the equipment.

We need welcome newcomers, encourage them with the novice class, and show them that their cars can be wicked fast without a turbo, suspension update, or exhaust. That just takes some time...

[engled]

If someone could re-do the current logo in vector or make a new one, that would be cool.

John W8, calling Mr. John W8. Please pick up the white courtesy phone and dial 0.

[TouringBubble]

I don't see why somebody couldn't mod the graphic any way they see fit. I'm thinkin' what I uploaded is a lot bigger than what you are seeing on the page, BTW. The bigger you start with, the better the result is.

Yeah, my original is 2541x3791 pixels. I can email to anybody who wants it.

Honestly Chuck, we probably need a vector logo rather than raster. There are more options with vector. If someone could re-do the current logo in vector or make a new one, that would be cool.

I might flesh out some ideas on this too ...

[slowautoxr]

One of the reasons I don't attend often, if at all, is because of the classing.

You can honestly say that you didn't enjoy autocrossing because of the class you were in??? Now I'm gonna be a little mean here but would it have been more fun if you had been in the MAW (Miata with Aftermarket Wheel) class? Now a bit more seriously how about all the beginners in one class with a different handicap for different cars. So you will compete with the new guy in the stock Corvette, the new guy with the Mini with the wider wheels, and the new guy with the Civic with a lowered suspension. Guess what, that class already exists. It's called the Novice class. The next time you come out, enter that class. Yes even with your turbo Miata.

You swap in a different steering wheel, and your in CSP, racing against Miatas with $10,000 worth of mods.

CSP just happens to be a very competitive class. You gotta understand the prestige of being the CSP Marshall for a month

I snuck past tech with my aftermarket wheel last time I attended

Tech can help you decide what class to run but they do not decide. You do. You can run your now turbo Miata in stock if your competitors don't care. The primary focus of the tech inspectors is to ensure that your car is safe for the event.

Since I turbo'd my Miata, I am 100% screwed on being competitive, unless I spend ~3500 on suspension work, $1500 on brakes, ~$1000 on exhaust, ~4000-7000 on a built engine, $2500~ on engine management , need I go on? Basically, the classing is oriented towards people with unlimited funds. That means classing is oriented to.... Almost no one. One tiny mod that probably won't give you any advantage bumps you out of class.

Oh please. You're just whining. Do you really think spending another $12k-15k on your car will make you competitive? I bet you'd go slower. You'll have swaybars to adjust. Shocks to adjust. Springs that can be changed. Brake bias that needs to be adjusted. Alignments that need to be tailored. How you gonna get all that right? And it has to be all right or else it wont turn or you'll spin out whenever you even think about making a turn. Oh wait, I forgot that we have unlimited funds. That means we go to our test facility and get everything dialed in before we come to an event. Consider it a challenge that you're taking on those guys with your under prepared car.

If you would have liked autox at all, you would have taken the money you spent on that turbo and bought a stock steering wheel so you could be running in stock Oh wait, there are some fast guys/gals in stock too. And guess what, sometimes they're actually faster than those in CSP. I think you're right. You're screwed on being competitive.

Sorry that all this is harsh but we're big boys and girls here. The club does everything they can to ensure a safe and fun event. So how should the classes and rules be set up so that you can be competitive?

[chuck schultz]

I don't see why somebody couldn't mod the graphic any way they see fit. I'm thinkin' what I uploaded is a lot bigger than what you are seeing on the page, BTW. The bigger you start with, the better the result is.

Yeah, my original is 2541x3791 pixels. I can email to anybody who wants it.

[EvoLady]

would it be ok to update that ALSCCA sicker a little?? i would like to send it to a friend of Evo Chris that is a graphic artist to update it a bit. plus get the website address on there too. didn't know if it had a copy write on it.

thanks

[kilgojr]

Hey guys,

you know sometimes we just need to ask around and see who we know and those people might be able to help more than we know.

My Dad is the President of the Shelby County Pilots Association and is now over all the planes and shows, etc that occur at Shelby Airport. My Uncle is one of the organizers of the Antique Fire Trucks Association here in Birmingham and rents out Mr. Barber's old shop downtown. He is also one of the VPs over at Moore Handley. Both of these locations and people are good to know and may be able to help us out with locations if we need them.

[zukitek]

Last year ,I had 2 of those made for my car .It cost me 5 bucks.most any trophy shop or vinyl graphics guy can do it .