North vs South

[JohnW8]

I just realized, I finished in exactly the same place in raw time, at every single event this season...how is that even possible?

Not trying hard enough or trying too hard.

[nicktcr]

So which one gives me the best PAX time? My travel and Raw points won't be altered by any scoring system, so that's why I care about pax. Can't run STU unless I re-flash the ecu. could do that, but rather not. So XP, BSP or TBSP? I just want someone to tell me which is better pax times so I can help us win!!!! That's all.

Probably TBSP. XP is just about the crappiest pax there is. Since there's already peeps in BSP, go for TBSP or something. Idk.

[kilgojr]

So is TBSP my ticket here???? Already changed my registration once. Want to make sure this time lol.

The thing to remember with the SCCA is that it is the drivers responsibility to place himself in the correct class. If you feel that you belong in STU according to your interpretation of the rules, then place yourself in STU.

Sure, there are people out there that are sticklers to the rules and they would to hear that someone would knowingly place themselves in a class that they did not belong in. (not saying that is what you would do) But there are other people that believe class rules are set to be pushed to the limit of interpretation, and some people make claim that there is a "spirit" of the rule book. It all depends on which person you are.

I guarantee that I could find a random page in the SCCA rulebook and randomly place my finger on a rule, then ask Rod Hardiman, Dennis Sparks, Darryl Engle, Chuck Badder, and Matt Williams to explain that rule to me and I would get a variety of answers to what that rule is supposed to mean.

[kilgojr]

So which one gives me the best PAX time? My travel and Raw points won't be altered by any scoring system, so that's why I care about pax. Can't run STU unless I re-flash the ecu. could do that, but rather not. So XP, BSP or TBSP? I just want someone to tell me which is better pax times so I can help us win!!!! That's all.

BSP pax is better then XP pax as I put the pax mulitpliers in the above post. TBSP does not have its own pax. TBSP uses the BSP pax but doesn't allow Rcomps in it. That means you would have "theoretically" a better chance of winning the class as opposed to running just BSP and being "out tire" by someone running Rcomps.

The problem you get with that, is that if you run TBSP and win the class, but someone else runs BSP on Rcomps and runs a better time then you, their PAX numbers are going to better yours because the PAX is the same. We don't give points for winning a Class, so that would not matter that you are running Tire class.

[HPEVOX]

This is why I thought I could run STU according to the rules, since I don't have a true boost controller that directly changes the boost.

and about BSP ok didn't know they pax the same. I know some guys up there are in BSP with Rcomps, so don't want to be out tired if you will.
Checking my boost tables on the AP now to see what is altered and may run STU.

[rodhx]

I guarantee that I could find a random page in the SCCA rulebook and randomly place my finger on a rule, then ask Rod Hardiman, Dennis Sparks, Darryl Engle, Chuck Badder, and Matt Williams to explain that rule to me and I would get a variety of answers to what that rule is supposed to mean.

Hey..wait just a dang minute. I'm not sure if I'm flattered or offended by that comment.

I have decided...I am definitely offended

[Cholewa]

Just run H stock and wait for someone to contest you.

[HPEVOX]

Just run H stock and wait for someone to contest you.

Gave it a thought hahaha. I'm comparing boost tables from stock maps to my flashed map on the ecu just so nobody has a hissy.

[nicktcr]

Just run H stock and wait for someone to contest you.

I'm already gonna contest that, cause I'm gonna be running in HS and don't need no Ebo messing with me.

[HPEVOX]

TBSP it is then, don't want nobody thinking i'm trying to "cheat". I'll win that class for us. Who's taking the other classes?

[nicktcr]

TBSP it is then, don't want nobody thinking i'm trying to "cheat". I'll win that class for us. Who's taking the other classes?

I got HS covered.

[cjwsrt]

BSP pax is better then XP pax as I put the pax mulitpliers in the above post. TBSP does not have its own pax. TBSP uses the BSP pax but doesn't allow Rcomps in it. That means you would have "theoretically" a better chance of winning the class as opposed to running just BSP and being "out tire" by someone running Rcomps.

The problem you get with that, is that if you run TBSP and win the class, but someone else runs BSP on Rcomps and runs a better time then you, their PAX numbers are going to better yours because the PAX is the same. We don't give points for winning a Class, so that would not matter that you are running Tire class.

Do you guys not give both Tire pax and Class pax? I know that in Dothan you get both and it really helps the people who dont have a Street tire class pax higher then just there stock or prepared class.

[HPEVOX]

I got HS covered.

Sweet! Me and Nick got 2 classes covered. C taking SM..or is sara co-driving

[Sparky]

Umm....I don't see classes anywhere in the NvS points system...best to run the class with the lowest PAX that your car is legal for.

http://www.alscca.net/community/showpost.php?p=31382&postcount=53

[rodhx]

Umm....I don't see classes anywhere in the NvS points system...best to run the class with the lowest PAX that your car is legal for.

This...

I appreciate all the enthusiasm...but focus people, focus!