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  • #61
    Originally posted by HPEVOX View Post
    TBSP it is then, don't want nobody thinking i'm trying to "cheat". I'll win that class for us. Who's taking the other classes?
    HAHAHA.........Good Luck.
    Sam Copeland
    Nissan 350Z BSP 2
    www.RedvsBlackRacing.com
    www.facebook.com/RedvsBlackRacing

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    • #62
      Originally posted by cjwsrt View Post
      Do you guys not give both Tire pax and Class pax? I know that in Dothan you get both and it really helps the people who dont have a Street tire class pax higher then just there stock or prepared class.
      Not sure what you mean by this.

      The way the SCCA runs PAX classes is to append a prefix to the base class (such as BSP). So, TBSP would be a BSP classed car running street tires, competing with other cars on street tires. Using the PAX modifier, this BSP car can run with THS, TCSP, TSSM, etc. The PAX modifier handicaps the "faster" class to balance competition. Raw times are unaffected.

      ST classes can't run in the T PAX class because they already have street tires calculated in to their PAX modifier, where other classes have a modifier based on race tires.

      A driver is not able to enter more than once, so it's not possible to run in T class and N class or any other PAX class at a single event.

      So, that's how we run it. I'm not sure how that compares as I can't really gather much info about classing from your post. John simply said that if you are in TBSP and someone else is in BSP and runs a faster raw time, they also have a better PAX time because you share the same BSP PAX modifier. Adding the "T" doesn't change the PAX, only your class and direct competition.

      And yeah ... it's off topic.
      Last edited by TouringBubble; 06-19-2012, 07:57 AM.
      Matt W.
      18 SM - Lancer Evolution MR
      15 MR - Volkswagen Beetle
      Sponsors: Satellite Racing - Defined Performance

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      • #63
        Originally posted by SamC_g35 View Post
        HAHAHA.........Good Luck.
        Seems to be me vs. a couple of vettes and...... the Copeland gang. MY parking lot!!! lol
        Heath Patterson
        "Look...both....It's like turbo." - C

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        • #64
          Originally posted by cjwsrt View Post
          Do you guys not give both Tire pax and Class pax? I know that in Dothan you get both and it really helps the people who dont have a Street tire class pax higher then just there stock or prepared class.
          Are you thinking of an additional multiplier for those running on street tires? We did that in Huntsville several years ago. If you ran HS on street tires, you'd get the base pax and then an additional 3% for the street tires. The 3% number came from some published results. That's probably less now. Anyway we did this for maybe a year or two.
          Charles
          TAC/TVR
          #72 SA rallyx Impreza 2.5 RS
          #74 "CSP" time trial Miata

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          • #65
            At the Evolution Super Shootout they used 2.5% (additional 0.975 modifier). It worked great until it rained at the first event.....

            Now they only apply the additional factor if it doesn't rain.
            Dennis
            '15 WRX DS

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            • #66
              Originally posted by slowautoxr View Post
              Are you thinking of an additional multiplier for those running on street tires? We did that in Huntsville several years ago. If you ran HS on street tires, you'd get the base pax and then an additional 3% for the street tires. The 3% number came from some published results. That's probably less now. Anyway we did this for maybe a year or two.
              Yes. i know when we race in Dothan we get our BS pax and an additional .97 pax.
              Carvel Webb
              HS 155 Fiesta, retired crossfire/370z

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              • #67
                Originally posted by cjwsrt View Post
                in Dothan we get our BS pax
                Hahahahaha. Surely I'm not the only one that at least smiled at this?
                Nick Stone

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                • #68
                  So...anyone want to let me co-drive with them on Sat? I broke a rocker arm on my e30 at the Chasing the Dragon hillclimb this past weekend :-/
                  Mark K
                  1989 BMW 325i
                  1990 BMW 325i
                  2013 BMW 135i

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                  • #69
                    I'd be interested to see what my E30 should be doing, you're more than welcome to co-drive with me Mark. Just let me know.
                    - Jerry Ledford
                    '16 Ram 2500 Big Horn - daily driver / tow vehicle

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                    • #70
                      Done! Thanks Jerry. Keepin' it in the e30 family.
                      Mark K
                      1989 BMW 325i
                      1990 BMW 325i
                      2013 BMW 135i

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                      • #71
                        Less than a week out ...

                        Matt W.
                        18 SM - Lancer Evolution MR
                        15 MR - Volkswagen Beetle
                        Sponsors: Satellite Racing - Defined Performance

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by e30Racer View Post
                          So...anyone want to let me co-drive with them on Sat? I broke a rocker arm on my e30 at the Chasing the Dragon hillclimb this past weekend :-/


                          OUCH!! I did this very thing with my last E30, and to add some more luck on top it was right in the middle of the head on the #4. Had to take the head off. Not a happy camper. Sorry to hear that.
                          Todd Buck
                          1998 BMW M3 - 13 STU

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by White Hot View Post


                            OUCH!! I did this very thing with my last E30, and to add some more luck on top it was right in the middle of the head on the #4. Had to take the head off. Not a happy camper. Sorry to hear that.
                            It was the number 3 on and the side of a mountain, with wet muddy grass is not the place to be changing out rocker arms. Pretty much have to take the head off to replace them, unless you have holes cut out in the firewall for easy channeling of the rocker arm guides out the back of the head.

                            Oh well, time for upgrades to "Old Faithful"

                            Lets see, three cars, three motors out. Sounds like fun.
                            John Kilgore...if winning was easy, losers would do it.
                            Team9Racing BMW 325i, Old Faithful (with a little evil)

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by kilgojr View Post
                              It was the number 3 on and the side of a mountain, with wet muddy grass is not the place to be changing out rocker arms. Pretty much have to take the head off to replace them, unless you have holes cut out in the firewall for easy channeling of the rocker arm guides out the back of the head.

                              Oh well, time for upgrades to "Old Faithful"

                              Lets see, three cars, three motors out. Sounds like fun.
                              I was going to say at least your cars are where you live, but I don't think that holds true anymore..
                              M. Cholewa

                              Because they heard I liked my name, so they put my name as my name so I could have my name in my name... all the time.

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                              • #75
                                Also, i'm looking for a codrive as well, i'll even buy you lunch!
                                M. Cholewa

                                Because they heard I liked my name, so they put my name as my name so I could have my name in my name... all the time.

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