North vs South

[jledford]

Well he knew the boost had changed as he said he was running 22psi but bumped it down to 17psi, but maybe he thought it was ok because it was via a tune. No big deal either way but was just curious about it when he told me boost had changed.

I remember thinking about running my old AWD Laser at an auto-x but never did. The main reason was because one of the first things I did to that car was a boost controller, which put me in a class where I had no chance of even being competitive.

[TouringBubble]

Another thing to remember is that if you have an aftermarket boost controller installed, but set to stock boost levels, it's still illegal. But, if you tune the car via the ECU only, if you leave the boost control tables stock, you're fine. I think thats what Daniel does with the Ms3 and his AP. Unless he removed it ... not sure.

So, it's perfectly possible to tune the ECU legally for ST in a boosted car ... it's just not common.

[HPEVOX]

Yeah that was the rule I was reading sparky. Thought our timing and intake/exhaust changes were what altered the boost levels. Indirectly in other words. As the rule allows. I wasn't thinking about the wgdc tables being changed Matt, yeah I understand now. Thanks. So BSP then?

[cjwsrt]

Yeah that was the rule I was reading sparky. Thought our timing and intake/exhaust changes were what altered the boost levels. Indirectly in other words. As the rule allows. I wasn't thinking about the wgdc tables being changed Matt, yeah I understand now. Thanks. So BSP then?

Carville and I are running BSP and NBSP saturday, Sunday we are running TBS and NTBS, I would run TBSP if I was you, get the higher pax and spread the field a little more

[TouringBubble]

Can you run N and T? In AxWare you can only use a single PAX modifier. You can't be scored in 2 different PAX classes.

[SamC]

I am going to co-drive my dad's miata on saturday in TCS. Matt what do I need to do to in sure that I keep my points going towards a year end championship in Tire? Is my name enough? or do I need to keep the same number?

[cjwsrt]

Can you run N and T? In AxWare you can only use a single PAX modifier. You can't be scored in 2 different PAX classes.

If thats the case ill just run T up there since it wont effect my points either way.
would i not be able to run Novice class with a tire pax, kind of like Novice car running a st class?

[TouringBubble]

You know Sam, I'm not certain. Keep the same number and the T should keep you getting points. When points are submitted, it will ask to make sure the driver is correct and we should just have to accept the points. I've not dealt with multiple cars in a PAX class yet.

[HPEVOX]

So is TBSP my ticket here???? Already changed my registration once. Want to make sure this time lol.

[MX5_Racer]

Can you run N and T? In AxWare you can only use a single PAX modifier. You can't be scored in 2 different PAX classes.

I'm not an expert, but I did stay at a Holiday in express last night...and I'm fairly certain that the PAX classes exist to allow cars that would normally be in different classes to compete head-to-head within a class using the PAX adjustments to normalize the competition. The actual PAX adjustment itself is no different if you run Tire or Novice than it is if you run in your normal class...you just compete against others in the same PAX class, i.e. Novice or Tire (or Pro, or Ladies, etc.).

[kilgojr]

I'm not an expert, but I did stay at a Holiday in express last night...and I'm fairly certain that the PAX classes exist to allow cars that would normally be in different classes to compete head-to-head within a class using the PAX adjustments to normalize the competition. The actual PAX adjustment itself is no different if you run Tire or Novice than it is if you run in your normal class...you just compete against others in the same PAX class, i.e. Novice or Tire (or Pro, or Ladies, etc.).

correct. Yankee.

[HPEVOX]

correct. Yankee.

Hey redneck, what class am I flipping running? Yeah i'm weird and I want to make magnets, so tell me!!! lol Seems STU is out due to boost levels (with chin head high) and someone suggested TBSP due to me running street tires. What you got?

[kilgojr]

Hey redneck, what class am I flipping running? Yeah i'm weird and I want to make magnets, so tell me!!! lol Seems STU is out due to boost levels (with chin head high) and someone suggested TBSP due to me running street tires. What you got?

hey, you can run whatever class you want to, until someone protests you.

If you can run TireBSP, then that is fine. Just look at it this way. You have three ways to score points:

1. Travel gets you 2 points
2. Finish high in the RAW times (you were 28, 17, 11 in the first 3 events)
----------your class has no bearing on this. This is just flat out who is the fastest.
3. Finish high in the PAX times (you were 38, 27, 24 in the first 3 events)
----------this seems to be were you are focusing, so BSP is 0.859, STU 0.841, SM is 0.866, XP is 0.898

So take your pick.

[nicktcr]

I just realized, I finished in exactly the same place in raw time, at every single event this season...how is that even possible?

[HPEVOX]

So which one gives me the best PAX time? My travel and Raw points won't be altered by any scoring system, so that's why I care about pax. Can't run STU unless I re-flash the ecu. could do that, but rather not. So XP, BSP or TBSP? I just want someone to tell me which is better pax times so I can help us win!!!! That's all.