Intro to the 2009 Season with Exciting Stuff

[engled]

Most regions do the N class just as Jamie is describing it. If your beating all of the novices and the people that would be in your regular class you need to decide which trophy you want.

[Focus]

Would it be less confusing if the drivers competing in the novice class showed only N on their car? It would be a lot less to call out on the radio, and provide a greater class feel. For example: "N 3, 2 cones, station 3" instead of "NSTS2 3 2 cones station 3." Even first time visitors would know who they're classed with. Those visitors are less likely to be worried about the PAX, while regular N drivers will know they may win with a slightly slower time.

[Focus]

If your beating all of the novices and the people that would be in your regular class you need to decide which trophy you want.

At that point isn't it too late because you haven't earned class points? Or could they decide which class points they want for that day?

[engled]

At that point isn't it too late because you haven't earned class points? Or could they decide which class points they want for that day?

What I'm saying is the driver needs to decide what class he/she wants to be in, if you want to run the novice then run novice, if you want to run the regular class run it. It's up to the driver to decide. Would you rather have a first in N or CSP?

Basically a new driver might chose to run N even though his car is classed CSP. By the second event we find out he is some kind of phenom and he is getting FTD. If he wants to switch to CSP it should be up to him. Not likely but stranger things have happened...

[Jamie Holladay]

Okay ... that's where I'm confused. Why is it referred to as a "PAX" class? Why do we even assign "STS" or "BS" to a novice driver if they have no affect on "STS" or "BS?"

Basically, you're saying that someone marked N can only score points for the N class for that event and toward the Rookie of the Year award ... not toward their marked class ... STS, BS or other. Also, even if a NSTS driver is faster than all other STS drivers, the fastest STS driver gets the 1st place points.

I can follow, but why would anyone do that for the entire season? That's voluntarily taking yourself out of the running for a class in hopes of that single chance at RotY.

the idea and advantage to running in the Novice class is instruction. The other thing is if you are CSP and running as a novice against John W8, the likely hood of you beating him is slim unless you are a prodigy. (just used w8 as an example here). If your a "rookie" and running in that class and finishing 5, 6,etc that is a little discouraging. So Novice is designed to run against people of your same skill level and to obtain instruction and guidence to build your skills. By PAXing the class you put the CARS on an even playing field (at least in theory). Rookie's only have to run the Novice class in their first event. After that they can choose to go to their regular class or compete in the Novice class. But the first POINTS event that you are a Novice you run the Novice class and at least have one event of instruction. I do not have a problem with a novice running 2 events and moving to the regular class. However if they run 3 they are stuck in novice for the season.

What I'm saying is the driver needs to decide what class he/she wants to be in, if you want to run the novice then run novice, if you want to run the regular class run it. It's up to the driver to decide. Would you rather have a first in N or CSP?

Basically a new driver might chose to run N even though his car is classed CSP. By the second event we find out he is some kind of phenom and he is getting FTD. If he wants to switch to CSP it should be up to him. Not likely but stranger things have happened...

Yeah I said that above.

[Jamie Holladay]

Another idea behind all three of the new classes is recruitment and retention. That has advantages to the Club.

[TouringBubble]

I'm with you now Jamie. We just need to run this once for T&S, as I think we only use the "N" classification for registration and not timing. So, car NCSP 14 would be entered in timing as CSP 14. Again, this is just how I think it works. PAX would be calculated with the N designation automatically based on registration.

[Jamie Holladay]

Ok. I am leaving that to you Evan and Jordan. But at least you know the concept.

[TouringBubble]

One thing on the N and C classes ... could the wavier person possibly do a little pre-screening for us? If they aren't familiar or are asking questions that make them seem new, maybe let them know to tell registration that they are novices on with a club?

[Jamie Holladay]

yeah I am sure we can work something out to help registration go smoothly.

[TouringBubble]

Jamie ... I think i set up the L class incorrectly. I had it set up like nationals where each class had a L class as well. You wanted it to work just like N, right?

[Jamie Holladay]

Jamie ... I think i set up the L class incorrectly. I had it set up like nationals where each class had a L class as well. You wanted it to work just like N, right?

Yes