race today

[dan68rs]

Had a great time today, the formula was a little loose but hopefully next one i will have some tires.

[Kevin McMahon]

Had a great time today, the formula was a little loose but hopefully next one i will have some tires.

Aside from that first run maybe, i would say the way you handled, or manhandled, that car was admirable.

[dan68rs]

Thanks, yea the first run i lost it a little, im learning this car still. Today was the 2nd time i have raced it.

[newmixcar]

Pretty good for 2nd time with the car today was technically my first time with mine and my times showed it. But yeah it was fun hope to see you next month

[J2870]

I propose a longer stopping area. lol

[Focus]

I agree. I think I may have been the only car to finish flat out through the finish, without lifting for the kink at the end, and still come to a complete stop inside the box. My brakes were not happy with that, and I have a slow car.

[jimkana]

The point of the box was twofold:

1. Keep the cars from flying out onto the road. (which we thought would be more in use by dog-track people.)
2. Make sure we hauled all the cars down to paddock speed before they ever got near the starting cars.

It worked well on both counts and only a handful of people hit the cones or could not get stopped. We could extend it a little bit and still meet the objectives, but the problem remains that we must get cars stopped without getting into the road or aiming toward the starting cars.

I also want to note that a true stop box is a legitimate and traditional autocross feature. We did not actually use one this time, but in a true stop box, there is a penalty for not coming to a COMPLETE stop. Yesterday, most everybody did a 'boulevard stop', which was fine. But it would be within good design standards to require a complete stop or get a penalty(like hitting a cone). I'm not a huge fan of that, but we might use it sometime.

I had a little trouble with stopping in the box as well, so I feel your pain. I'm still going to use it in the future, for safety's sake.

[kilgojr]

I was definitely full throttle through the slalom and kink and still managed to stop in the box....thanks for ABS by BMW. Actually the second time I went through that section the ABS kicked the pedal four or five times before I completely stopped and the rear decklid cover came loose and was in the floorboard when I got back to grid. It was great fun!!!!

[JohnW8]

Actually using your brakes is also part of autocross that some course designers tend to eliminate. Of course my brakes had more grip than my tires and I went through the end of the box once. I drive an old miata... what's ABS?

Also when the course was laid out we didn't think anyone would be going so fast at the finish. It was a pretty cool small lot course. Good job Eric!!

[Focus]

I must admit I had a rather large grin after several of those stops, maybe because of how crazy and atypical as it was. It was a very fun course with various challenges. Eric did a great job designing an intense course.

[jmurphy726]

Actually using your brakes is also part of autocross that some course designers tend to eliminate. Of course my brakes had more grip than my tires and I went through the end of the box once. I drive an old miata... what's ABS?

Also when the course was laid out we didn't think anyone would be going so fast at the finish. It was a pretty cool small lot course. Good job Eric!!

I liked the design once I got used to the concept of a "double lapper"...I'm new, so it's easy to blow my mind...I did get some diverse and much needed seat time!

Oh, and John, the "ripping the space/time continuum" joke when Diana launched my car was hilarious!

[Cholewa]

It's ok, lots of us vets got confused too.. Maybe next time we can make the loop/finish a bit more distinguished.

[jimkana]

It's ok, lots of us vets got confused too.. Maybe next time we can make the loop/finish a bit more distinguished.

Maybe have "Gramps" Wenning standing by the split. He looks pretty distinguished...

I don't know why we need to change that. NO ONE got confused by that part...

[newmixcar]

Yeah I didn't get confused I just tried to take it too early

[TouringBubble]

I had a little concern about the kink just before the finish. It's was very easy to get the rear loose in the section if you had the need to drop speed before the lights to stop correctly (like a 3120lb Evo ...). Many people got really loose there and took out comes after the finish. I only took out one on the inside right at the entrance to the box, but was very loose on my faster runs.

Basically, I love the idea of the box, but just think it needed to be straighter or a little deeper. I would have rather seen a shorter box in a straight line with the lights closer to the end to keep the cars balanced. But that's just me.

The rest of the course was amazing from concept to execution. Even those 8 cones that ripped off my plate. Who thought it was possible to be 2nd fastest overall as well as slowest run of the day? +16 HURTS!