how to get scrutineer and f&c lincenses?

[ej1pat]

I've worked a couple of track days, and I've been wanting to pursue getting my licenses. F&C and Scrutineer licenses mainly. I'm already a SCCA member too. I would like to know how to go about getting them or just the steps to attain them. thanks on a reply.

[rodhx]

That would be awesome Patrick! We REALLY need a licensed Scrutineer who can create log books for race cars. Hopefully John Waight will chime in here as to what you need to do as he has a certain level of scrutineer license but not sufficient to write log books. I'd bet a big step would be to come work our October Time Trial at TGPR with Rich Crowell. Rich is a nationally licensed Scrutineer and will get you on the right path.

For F&C, I know you have worked a time or two at TGPR, and maybe more. Getting a regional licence is easy, but what you really want is a divisional license (me too for that matter). I think once you have enough experience a Divisional license requires getting your RE (me ) to sign off or recommend you. Chuck Schultz should be able to fill in the details.

Thanks again for your interest! These are critical roles that we are currently lacking in.

[ej1pat]

Ok cool, I'll work Scutineer with Rich at TGPR, I think I worked with him and Gary at Barbers. So to get the F/C license is there any form you have to sign or just a recommendation?

[JohnW8]

You can call SCCA headquarters and have them add those licenses to your membership card.
Then start getting experience. I really don't know what you need to do to get the experience for the Scrutineers license. I've helped Rich at several events and annual inspections and pushed alot of cars across scales and I still get conflicting info about whether I can or cannot sign off on a logbook at express tech. I do not know the GCR as well as I should, honestly I don't know what I should study/read/memorize in the GCR in order to move forward. The system doesn't work, if this is indeed the system. Who knows?

I wish SCCA had a knowledge base that would allow people to take online classes in scrutineering. Where you could learn the GCR and the procedures a scrutineer is supposed to do. Once you get the classroom stuff done then one could go to the field and do practical application of the stuff you learned.

I'm pretty sure that as long as you know where to look in the GCR for the answer to a question or concern, you could be a scrutineer.

[FVee90]

With RR worker licenses you start out as a Regional license - you can request that on your own to the National office. Upgrades as you get experience to a Divisional license oked by the division lead (SEDIV Scrutineer lead is Fred Clark) and it is nice to have a National licensed guy and your RE to help provide recommendation.
TT has almost the same deal in that you start out as an Apprentice and get upgraded to Official and then after many years of experience Specialist - In SEDIV Craig Farr can upgrade you.
John has not learned the secret handshake so we will need to discuss further.

[ej1pat]

Ok cool, just called SCCA headquarters and had f/c and scrutineer apprentice added to my license.

[ej1pat]

So now to work on those, to the next level.

[farrout]

For Road Racing, it requires a National Scrutineer to issue a new RR Logbook. It requires a Divisional Scrutineer to do an RR Annual Inspection. The Regional Scrutineer license can be obtained just by asking SCCA for it - it is a learning position.

TT is only slightly different. The Apprentice Tech license is added just by asking SCCA for it. The Official and Specialist Tech license are obtained by the TTAC Representative or our SEDIV Divisional Administrator approving it. Again, this is based on your body of work and a senior Tech recommending you for the higher level. It takes more than an Apprentice Tech license to do a TT annual inspection or issue a TT Logbook.

Most TT Techs are also RR Scrutineers.

I was able to obtain my Divisional Scrutineer based on the work I have done with Rich and Mark over many years plus my TT and RR tech experience. I started out by first observing Rich and Mark do RR and TT inspections and RR and TT Logbook issues. Then I did some on my own under their tutelage. I know that I will probably never be a National Scrutineer because I cannot devote the time necessary at Road Races - I would rather race. But even when I race, I spend Friday evenings teching cars and doing annual inspections. It is not a quick process to move up the Scrutineer ranks nor should it be.

I have said this before and will say it again. Rich is 70ish and I am fast approaching it. After us, TVR only has ONE other Div'l Scrutineer. ALSCCA has NONE of any level. All the TT and RR guys appreciate having a local Scrutineer to do the annuals and logbook issues at their houses. The alternative is to wait for a race and stand in line with all the other drivers waiting for your turn for an annual and then hope that you r car passes (not all do). It is past time for a new crop of Scrutineers in TVR and ALSCCA to support their Regions in these critical areas.

I should also mention T&S. We only have one higher level T&S guy in TVR. ALSCCA has one. This is another of those critical areas necessary to conduct an event.

[farrout]

John Waight did an excellent write-up on what a SOLO Safety Steward does in this thread:

http://www.alscca.net/community/showthread.php?p=45273#post45273

The concepts are pretty close to those of a TT Safety Steward.