TGPR School

[87RX7RACER]

I hate to be the spoil sport but if I could make a suggestion. I started out auto-xing four years ago. I've had a pretty solid track day and TT schedule for the last two years. As a driver I'm just getting to where I might be able to be a little better than pack fodder in a IT field. I was able to keep pace with Steve at TGPR. I would have to guess that he was slightly faster, but he wasn't lapping me in a 20 minute session like he was last year. I finally broke into the 1.53's at Barber's on a cold track with dead tires, I think Chuck runs 47's. My point is don't jump into this too quickly because speed, and being somewhat comfortable at speed doesn't come overnight. Keep auto-xing and get your tt lincense. Run a couple of track days with an instructor, get signed off by that/those instructor. Once you do that start instructing. I couldn't afford to run 8 track days a year at Barber's if I didn't instruct. I kit a little bit of a plateu speed wise for a little bit. I think what broke it was Joe. I let Joe by me on my out lap last year and decided that I was going to chase him down. I probably dropped three seconds watching his line and adjusting mine so that I could catch him. Towards the end of the session I got the point and promptly started starving for fuel, which costs about 2 seconds/lap and nearly spun it at 15. I let him back by and we both came in. I've learned a lot from Chuck as well, most of it has been verbal, but it has been worth a few seconds too.

Evan, as always I appreciate your advice-and believe it or not, I do have a lot of respect for you as a driver. As much as I want to attend the TT school in February at this point, I don't see it being a financial possibility. But when the money permits, and I do prepare the car for TT, I minus well prep it for ITS-not saying that I am going to go club racing because I KNOW that is not a possibility for me at this point in my life. Just saying that if I'm going through all of the trouble, I might as well go ahead and have it ready for that when the time comes, years down the road. I just don't have the income needed to fulfill even a part time ride in RR.

That being said, I also know that I have a lot to learn as a driver. Yes I did have a good track day at TGPR minus the one spin I had in two, but Ricky was impressed by the way I handled myself around the track. I could definitely tell that by the end of the day I was picking up good speed, thanks to his guidance as well as Paul's. Although I have no idea what my lap times were, I'm sure that there is a lot that can be improved upon. That was my second event there.

I do plan on doing AutoX full time in Bham next year, and I will be running the car in STS2 (which is the correct class I should be in for the tires I'm running). For now I will try to have fun and get better as a driver. I believe for next year my main goal should be either a DE event at Barbers or at Road Atlanta . Maybe by then I can do some instructing and put in some serious track time at a variety of tracks.

Thanks for the advice man!

-Vincent.

[zukitek]

Vince...the school isn't until April_mid April_at that .You have what it takes car control wise in level3 TT.Just prep your car to a CSP or SM class and do the dayum thing man.Forget ITS.You can upgrade the bar to a cage later .This also deletes the need for the shut off switch and maybe a few other parts .

What do you lack to be ready car wise ?

The way I read TT rules is that to run SP or SM.... "autox rules say"...the car conforms to thsoe rules mapped out in the solo rulebook for that class plus the addition of the rollbar (with SFI padding) conforming to the GCR on rollbar construction .Next is the drivers seat which needs to be SFI minimum but FIA ideally.SFI seats require the seat to be braced to the rollbar ,FIA seats dont.5 point driver seat belt harness is minimum,6 point is recomended ,and 7 point is on the horizon.

A fire extinguisher with a steel SCCA approved mount is required .I got mine for around 100 bucks.IT wasn't local but I got it next day from GA.The rest is a plain street safety inspection.

You don't have to be ready by the PRE event inspection .Dont give up .Just get the car ready.

At the very least...you can get the car logbooked at the event .The driver gear is something_ I _havn't even finished yet .I have the suit that qualifies to be worn without nomex underwear.This was due to a donation by Joe Sharrow (thanks Joe).Just so happens someone(Chuck Baader I think he said)gave it to him and he couldn't wear it and it fit me and he being the good guy he is ...gave it to me .THe gloves ,as I understand it are of a leather ,non porous ,requirement at the least.The shoes are at least covering the ankles and "cover the whole foot "

Did I miss anything ?


RR

[87RX7RACER]

Vince...the school isn't until April_mid April_at that .You have what it takes car control wise in level3 TT.Just prep your car to a CSP or SM class and do the dayum thing man.Forget ITS.You can upgrade the bar to a cage later .This also deletes the need for the shut off switch and maybe a few other parts .

What do you lack to be ready car wise ?

The way I read TT rules is that to run SP or SM.... "autox rules say"...the car conforms to thsoe rules mapped out in the solo rulebook for that class plus the addition of the rollbar (with SFI padding) conforming to the GCR on rollbar construction .Next is the drivers seat which needs to be SFI minimum but FIA ideally.SFI seats require the seat to be braced to the rollbar ,FIA seats dont.5 point driver seat belt harness is minimum,6 point is recomended ,and 7 point is on the horizon.

A fire extinguisher with a steel SCCA approved mount is required .I got mine for around 100 bucks.IT wasn't local but I got it next day from GA.The rest is a plain street safety inspection.

You don't have to be ready by the PRE event inspection .Dont give up .Just get the car ready.

At the very least...you can get the car logbooked at the event .The driver gear is something_ I _havn't even finished yet .I have the suit that qualifies to be worn without nomex underwear.This was due to a donation by Joe Sharrow (thanks Joe).Just so happens someone(Chuck Baader I think he said)gave it to him and he couldn't wear it and it fit me and he being the good guy he is ...gave it to me .THe gloves ,as I understand it are of a leather ,non porous ,requirement at the least.The shoes are at least covering the ankles and "cover the whole foot "

Did I miss anything ?


RR

Well in that case then maybe there is hope for me after all then...lol. I will see what I can do.

-Vincent.

[JohnW8]

Vince...the school isn't until April_mid April_at that .You have what it takes car control wise in level3 TT.Just prep your car to a CSP or SM class and do the dayum thing man.Forget ITS.You can upgrade the bar to a cage later .This also deletes the need for the shut off switch and maybe a few other parts .

What do you lack to be ready car wise ?

The way I read TT rules is that to run SP or SM.... "autox rules say"...the car conforms to thsoe rules mapped out in the solo rulebook for that class plus the addition of the rollbar (with SFI padding) conforming to the GCR on rollbar construction .Next is the drivers seat which needs to be SFI minimum but FIA ideally.SFI seats require the seat to be braced to the rollbar ,FIA seats dont.5 point driver seat belt harness is minimum,6 point is recomended ,and 7 point is on the horizon.

A fire extinguisher with a steel SCCA approved mount is required .I got mine for around 100 bucks.IT wasn't local but I got it next day from GA.The rest is a plain street safety inspection.

You don't have to be ready by the PRE event inspection .Dont give up .Just get the car ready.

At the very least...you can get the car logbooked at the event .The driver gear is something_ I _havn't even finished yet .I have the suit that qualifies to be worn without nomex underwear.This was due to a donation by Joe Sharrow (thanks Joe).Just so happens someone(Chuck Baader I think he said)gave it to him and he couldn't wear it and it fit me and he being the good guy he is ...gave it to me .THe gloves ,as I understand it are of a leather ,non porous ,requirement at the least.The shoes are at least covering the ankles and "cover the whole foot "

Did I miss anything ?


RR

That's a good synopsis of things needed to do TT with a Autocross car.
Don't forget the SA rated helmet and Nomex socks. No M-rated helmets are allowed. If you have a beard or mustache, you'll need to get a nomex head sock (balaclava?)

I got the sanction number for the event and have made the request for insurance, so I will have entry forms available soon.

[Erv]

so... to recap...
Car
1. roll bar with SFI padding
2. SFI Seat attached to rollbar or FIA Seat unattached
3. 5 point harness, optional 6 or 7 point
4. Fire extinguisher with Steel SCCA Approved mount
5. Log Book
Uniform
1. SA Rated Helmet
2. Nomex underwear (if suit doesn't qualify)
3. Nomex Fire retardant suit
4. Leather nonporous gloves
5. Shoes covering ankles whole foot covered
6. Beard or mustache? Balaclava

Just making a list for the car, and me.

[farrout]

THe helmet has to be SA00 or higher

[87RX7RACER]

so... to recap...
Car
1. roll bar with SFI padding
2. SFI Seat attached to rollbar or FIA Seat unattached
3. 5 point harness, optional 6 or 7 point
4. Fire extinguisher with Steel SCCA Approved mount
5. Log Book
Uniform
1. SA Rated Helmet
2. Nomex underwear (if suit doesn't qualify)
3. Nomex Fire retardant suit
4. Leather nonporous gloves
5. Shoes covering ankles whole foot covered
6. Beard or mustache? Balaclava

Just making a list for the car, and me.

Wow, thats a big list. I'm pretty sure that unless I win some money from some where, the chances of me aquireing all of that even before April is slim to none. I need a new job!

-V