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    OK .At the risk of detracting from the post event excitement I must say this ......As this regions RE,I am going to address from my standpoint something that happened today at the finish.Guys ,that finish was WAAAYYYYYYY tooooo fast .Was it fun?????YES...it was fun ...right up until the point that an ST bimmer clobbered the finish timing lights at what I would say was 60+MPH .I will also say that on his present course he could have easily hit the pole 150 feet away .

    We had a 300 or so foot baking zone after the lights that on more than one occasion was not enough to get the cars slowed down to make the turn back into the grid lane .David Mcfall had to go down into the lower lot a couple times because it was not possible for his SS Z06 vette.Guys ...laying out a course and approving it is a big responsibility .You may drive a Chevette ,but,you have to figure in for a vette or a STI subbie that can really have some big trap speeds .I dont know if any of you noticed but the novice versus seasoned autoxr ratio has shifted to about 60/40 to the novice side.

    I can share some responsibility in that i didn't become more insistant (I did bring it up prior to the beginnings of runs)that the finish be modified but this will not be the case next time .Equipment has to now be repaired and we were very fortunate not to have to replace the timing lights or fill out an incident report.All of the dramas always seem to happen at the finish so lets do a more responsible job from here out on the finish.

    Even if that Bimmer hadnt hit the light (not singling you out guy because it could have been me )the finish was too fast .Sorry to be critical but wait........thats my job now.

    Course designers...thank you so much for your creativeness .Please review the solo rules and stay inside of them .The speeds we should be seeing are 45-50 MPH max and thats pushing it .If folks want to see higher speeds...there is TT levels 1 -4 and then theres club racing .Can you guys see where im coming from here ?

    Now with that said ,the event was well run ,well organized and i had a helluva time except for the aforementioned .


    Ricky Ragan,
    RE,ALSCCA
    Last edited by zukitek; 03-08-2009, 08:10 PM.
    Ricky R
    95 240sx with LS1 power. $4500 drivetrain in a $500 car
    97 miata pretty much stock

  • #2
    I had rather have a "Too fast" finish that is in a straight line than a first gear finish that is crooked as hell. But I digress, Ricky is correct the finish was to fast. We were deep in to third, Alan was running an indicated 70+ threw the lights.

    Thread Jack: Oh frak I like Hoosier A6's...
    Darryl E.
    Blue Miata with ricer stickers.
    Wizzer Motorsports

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    • #3
      Originally posted by engled View Post
      I had rather have a "Too fast" finish that is in a straight line than a first gear finish that is crooked as hell. But I digress, Ricky is correct the finish was to fast. We were deep in to third, Alan was running an indicated 70+ threw the lights.

      Thread Jack: Oh frak I like Hoosier A6's...
      Yes ..I whole heartedly agree that a straight finish is best .That is the only reason I reluctantly agreed to let that finish stand .I was wrong!!!it was at least 2 gates tooooo long.

      A straight finish is only a safe finish if it doesn't last 500 feet.GO to Steele dragways race results from this weekend and calculate how fast these guys go from deadstill to ??????in 500 feet.We are already at speed.

      RR
      Last edited by zukitek; 03-08-2009, 08:21 PM.
      Ricky R
      95 240sx with LS1 power. $4500 drivetrain in a $500 car
      97 miata pretty much stock

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      • #4
        hideeho
        on a similar note, when the finish is turning in towards the start, the way it was today, the car @ the start needs to be started earlier, so it clears the area before the finishing car comes through, or after the finishing car comes through. we had 1 near miss when subbie lost it on the right turn coming down & came within 20'-30' or so of the car starting. thats not super close, but it is to close.
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        waflet (bill)
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        • #5
          As the Solo Chairman I must agree with Ricky. Please don't misunderstand. The course design was very nice & I enjoyed it and so did everyone that I spoke to.

          I am attaching a PDF file that is a "Course Design Course". I have refered to this on each occassion that I have designed a course. It is good for reference.

          Last edited by Jamie Holladay; 03-08-2009, 08:36 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by waflet View Post
            hideeho
            on a similar note, when the finish is turning in towards the start, the way it was today, the car @ the start needs to be started earlier, so it clears the area before the finishing car comes through, or after the finishing car comes through. we had 1 near miss when subbie lost it on the right turn coming down & came within 20'-30' or so of the car starting. thats not super close, but it is to close.
            that has been addressed as well.

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            • #7
              Wizzer Motorsports is going to build a new light stand, you won't want to hit this one.
              Darryl E.
              Blue Miata with ricer stickers.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by engled View Post
                Wizzer Motorsports is going to build a new light stand, you won't want to hit this one.

                OMG ...the inpenetrable 56 brick mailbox comes to mind as i read this.Guys seriously ....lets keep it simple and to the letter of the law .That is easy ,that is researched ,THAT IS COVERED by our insurance certificate.I really hated to even bring it up but i felt it in my job description as RE and the acting SS to bring it up .I also felt bad being that i had reservations,being a newby SS and not putting my foot down so to speak and then low and behold something happened.I can only apologize as an SS for my lack of fortitude.We should use this as an example and not get into a rutt per say and really consciously look at the particular circumstances relevant to that particular event such as group experience ,car potential ...etc


                RR
                Last edited by zukitek; 03-08-2009, 10:22 PM.
                Ricky R
                95 240sx with LS1 power. $4500 drivetrain in a $500 car
                97 miata pretty much stock

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