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  • Sound restrictions at ALSCCA Solo events

    For your information...

    We are considering taking a more stringent approach to sounds limits at our Solo events in the interest of both keeping sites where we can play and safeguarding our participants' hearing. At our last event we used a limit based on the SCCA national default values of 98dB warning/100 dB fix-it-or-park-it. It turned out on both days that the cars, especially the loud cars, were not really on throttle where the meter was placed. That said it is safe to say there were 5 particular offenders that should really consider doing something about noise because the chances that they will continue to "make sound" are essentially zero. I don't have names/numbers in front of me, and even if I do remember your name I'm not (yet) going to publicly shame you, but in no particular order the cars were: black s2000, blue Focus, gray Roush Mustang, black Mustang, & white NA Miata.

    We will once again run sound at this Sunday's event at the Hoover Met using the 98/100 dB limits, but this is likely the last time the limits will be that high. Any car going over 100 dB will get one warning to fix it. A second offense will result in a disqualification. Additionally, since we are considering a 96 dB park-it limit for future events, we will record high readings and warn any car near or above 96 dB so they can return their exhaust to something sane before another event.

    If you an issue with this, please consider the following:
    • Sound complaints are one of the primary tools used to shut down motorsports venues. We don't intend for somebody's ridiculously loud car to be the reason why the rest of us can't have nice places to play.
    • Loud cars are a very real threat to our participants' hearing. I'm not talking about the driver or passenger who are wearing helmets. This means the corner workers and particularly the poor person working start. If the starter winces or covers his ears every time you launch, your car is too freaking loud.
    • If you think fast car = loud car, please take a look at the cars running the fastest times at each event. I bet you find fast car = loud car to be as ridiculous as "loud pipes save lives".

    We will work with anyone with sound issues to help mitigate the problem. There are short-term tricks that might enable one to reduce the noise enough to keep running for the day (wet towel zip-tied to the tailpipe, for example). But if you have to resort to something like that to finish an event, please don't show up for future events without doing something to really fix the problem.

    One final thing...please note that we do NOT have to be running a sound meter to park a vehicle for noise. The supplemental rules for our Solo seasons (2015 version found here) state:
    "11. Sound Limits:
    Vehicles deemed to be too loud by the Event Chairman will not be allowed to compete without modification. We must be respectful of our neighbors in order to keep our current event sites. If in doubt about your vehicle, please consult with the chairperson prior to the event. Drivers are reminded that the need to be respectful of our neighbors increases on the public streets surrounding our events. Disciplinary action may be taken by the Event Chairman against drivers failing to represent our event in a positive manner"
    Last edited by rodhx; 07-06-2015, 02:50 PM.
    Rod H
    Bringing a knife to a gun fight.

  • #2
    Excellent idea. I have seen several sites lost due to sound issues, and there have been many cars at Pelham site that have seemed to well exceed those sound limits in the past. We need to be proactive in site retention...
    Bill Clinton "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."

    "Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes!"

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    • #3
      I think I might have found the problem.
      Attached Files
      Erik B.
      Why do I keep racing these weird cars?
      Why can't I just get a miata and be happy?

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      • #4
        Yep. That looks like an exhaust leak to me.
        John W8
        CSP 10 Yellow Miata

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        • #5
          Thar she blows.
          Nick Stone

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          • #6
            Great! Seems like two of cars I listed will be fixed for the weekend. Thanks guys!
            Rod H
            Bringing a knife to a gun fight.

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            • #7
              Got it welded up and put back together. It's a little quieter. Should be ok for tech, but it's still not as polite as I'm used to.
              Erik B.
              Why do I keep racing these weird cars?
              Why can't I just get a miata and be happy?

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              • #8
                There is no sound requirement to pass tech...
                Rod H
                Bringing a knife to a gun fight.

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                • #9
                  Be glad I'm planning to change it. I could build it loud enough to barely pass with only enough margin for weather fluctuations.
                  Erik B.
                  Why do I keep racing these weird cars?
                  Why can't I just get a miata and be happy?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rodhx View Post
                    [*]Loud cars are a very real threat to our participants' hearing.
                    I've personally had a measurable hearing loss from one exposure to one car at a club race. I was shooting photos along the front straight at Barber, and forgot to insert the ear plugs I had in my pocket. It ruined my week, believe me.

                    Originally posted by rodhx View Post
                    [*]If you think fast car = loud car, please take a look at the cars running the fastest times at each event. I bet you find fast car = loud car to be as ridiculous as "loud pipes save lives".
                    I've measured GT1 cars at Road Atlanta (including PLN's Corvette, a few years ago) with sound levels of 92 dBa. That's right, 92 decibels for some of the fastest cars on track that weekend.
                    Chuck Schultz
                    Another black(ish) Miata
                    2007 Jetta GLI Fahrenheit

                    http://csgoodphotos.com or http://art.csgoodphotos.com

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Focus View Post
                      Be glad I'm planning to change it.

                      Why should we "be glad you're planning to change it"? I hope that is a reference to being proactive even though the car owner himself complained about how loud it is (which means you should be glad you're planning to change it). Otherwise it comes across as a threat.

                      Originally posted by Focus View Post
                      I could build it loud enough to barely pass with only enough margin for weather fluctuations.
                      You could...we all could...but I'd remind you of the quoted section from the supps in my original post and caution you to tread lightly.
                      Rod H
                      Bringing a knife to a gun fight.

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                      • #12
                        my car's not on the list
                        Jeremiah Hodgins
                        99 BMW M3
                        Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car.
                        Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and torque is how far you take the wall with you.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by J2870 View Post
                          my car's not on the list
                          nope... 'cause your car sounds pretty good
                          Rod H
                          Bringing a knife to a gun fight.

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                          • #14
                            Glad you like it... wanna trade?
                            Jeremiah Hodgins
                            99 BMW M3
                            Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car.
                            Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and torque is how far you take the wall with you.

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                            • #15
                              Got my eye on something else...but the M3 will soon be up for sale
                              Rod H
                              Bringing a knife to a gun fight.

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