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  • #46
    Originally posted by TouringBubble View Post
    With balanced rates, I'd suggest trying something like 38F and 42R on the pressures for a FWD. Depending on your alignment and sways of course. With so much front bias on the pressures it sounds like it would be really pushy.
    This could just be rabbit specific, but when I ran uber high pressure in the rear, the car sucked. The back would rotate too easily, but wouldn't get back into control very easily. Dropped the rear down to 28-30 and it made a huge difference. The rear was much more planted but wasn't averse to lift oversteer/trail braking, and it's much more planted with the larger contact patch.

    But that's just the rabbit. and I don't care too much about tire pressure (I haven't changed it at all this year)
    M. Cholewa

    Because they heard I liked my name, so they put my name as my name so I could have my name in my name... all the time.

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    • #47
      The Rabbit has a rear biased spring setup from what I know (and felt). Just like my car has. If the springs/sways are stiffer int he rear, then less pressure, yes. He said it's balanced F:R, so I suggested the pressure for more oversteer on a naturally pushy chassis/drivetrain.
      Matt W.
      18 SM - Lancer Evolution MR
      15 MR - Volkswagen Beetle
      Sponsors: Satellite Racing - Defined Performance

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      • #48
        I actually have nothing going on Sunday...I might be able to make this....if it's a fast course I might be able to make more than the 1 point I made here....or I could take the D-stock car and cross my fingers for pax magic. When/where on 20 or 59 are you guys meeting up again? (I can't read this thread as it requires more than 2 minutes of focus).
        e34 540i/6
        e30 318is/5
        e30 344is/6

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
          Ya those numbers didn't include us so you can +3 to that. I'll be registering us all through axware tomorrow. Put new springs under the rear on Monday so now I'm 50/50 on rates. Had 340f 250r with 45psiF and 40psiR making the car handle like garbage. Judging from the tire wear the pressures were WAY off. Starting with 40F and 35R then going to back them down from there in between runs.

          Edit: Oh ya and door panels are back in for the HVS event so I'm a little more legal for SM now.
          if you need anymore help with the tire pressures, etc we always have our pyrometer and laser temp gun with us. since we will both be running SM we will be in the same group. just park close to us so we can work on it at the same time, because I know that we will be working on the ETHIRTY in between runs.
          John Kilgore...if winning was easy, losers would do it.
          Team9Racing BMW 325i, Old Faithful (with a little evil)

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          • #50
            Originally posted by TouringBubble View Post
            With balanced rates, I'd suggest trying something like 38F and 42R on the pressures for a FWD. Depending on your alignment and sways of course. With so much front bias on the pressures it sounds like it would be really pushy.
            Ya it was ridiculous pushy. The only way to get rotation was to trail brake but the rear was really unpredictable, wanting to snap sideways as Cholewa said.

            I have no sways front or rear which adds to the crazyness. After not getting the car to fire on grid for the first run, missing the shift to 2nd out of the gate, and dealing with a horrid setup; I didn't feel much like tweaking so I just concentrated on driving.

            I may look into finding a rear sway before the next BRC race but right now just needed something a bit more manageable. Eventually I will throw the Tokico Blues in the trash for some Koni Yellows, experiment with more rear bias springs & sway, and throw on some better tires. Until then, I'm just going to focus on improving my driving.

            Read on the TVR forum that last years course raced all around the stadium, hopefully they do the same this year, Matt (Altima) loves higher speed stuff. What camera mounts are you all using for the in-car shots?

            Originally posted by kilgojr View Post
            if you need anymore help with the tire pressures, etc we always have our pyrometer and laser temp gun with us. since we will both be running SM we will be in the same group. just park close to us so we can work on it at the same time, because I know that we will be working on the ETHIRTY in between runs.
            Cool, thanks. I would appreciate that. I wonder if I should just register for SM since no one would likely be running SMF up there. Does the SMF PAX multiplier get carried over if you get bumped to SM?
            Last edited by Shaggy; 10-14-2010, 02:34 PM.
            #20 SMF Civic - Lacy Ingle
            http://www.CivicPerformanceParts.com

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            • #51
              Originally posted by janders211 View Post
              I actually have nothing going on Sunday...I might be able to make this....if it's a fast course I might be able to make more than the 1 point I made here....or I could take the D-stock car and cross my fingers for pax magic. When/where on 20 or 59 are you guys meeting up again? (I can't read this thread as it requires more than 2 minutes of focus).
              Josh, I'd bring the 635 up for some Dstock running. The SM pax is terrrible, plus we already have 3 of us running. Plus the 635 will get huge love in Hville.

              John
              John Kilgore...if winning was easy, losers would do it.
              Team9Racing BMW 325i, Old Faithful (with a little evil)

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              • #52
                Originally posted by janders211 View Post
                I actually have nothing going on Sunday...I might be able to make this....if it's a fast course I might be able to make more than the 1 point I made here....or I could take the D-stock car and cross my fingers for pax magic. When/where on 20 or 59 are you guys meeting up again? (I can't read this thread as it requires more than 2 minutes of focus).
                Matt W.
                18 SM - Lancer Evolution MR
                15 MR - Volkswagen Beetle
                Sponsors: Satellite Racing - Defined Performance

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                  Cool, thanks. I would appreciate that. I wonder if I should just register for SM since no one would likely be running SMF up there. Does the SMF PAX multiplier get carried over if you get bumped to SM?
                  http://www.scca-chicago.com/solo/indexes/rtp2010.html here is the PAX layout for 2010. SMF is only .007 difference from SM, so it won't really matter too much.
                  John Kilgore...if winning was easy, losers would do it.
                  Team9Racing BMW 325i, Old Faithful (with a little evil)

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                  • #54
                    You could also run in the Tire or Pro class if you just want competition.
                    Matt W.
                    18 SM - Lancer Evolution MR
                    15 MR - Volkswagen Beetle
                    Sponsors: Satellite Racing - Defined Performance

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by kilgojr View Post
                      Josh, I'd bring the 635 up for some Dstock running. The SM pax is terrrible, plus we already have 3 of us running. Plus the 635 will get huge love in Hville.

                      John
                      I lost a brake pad @ tgpr - but they are supposed to be here tomorrow. As long as they come in I can rock the 6.

                      What is D-stock + missing exhaust, springs, and wider tires?
                      e34 540i/6
                      e30 318is/5
                      e30 344is/6

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                      • #56
                        ST as long as displacement fits, you have a cat and tires are within 7.5". Some other small things too ...
                        Matt W.
                        18 SM - Lancer Evolution MR
                        15 MR - Volkswagen Beetle
                        Sponsors: Satellite Racing - Defined Performance

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                        • #57
                          Not ST, engine is too big. STX maybe?
                          Rod H
                          Bringing a knife to a gun fight.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by TouringBubble View Post
                            You could also run in the Tire or Pro class if you just want competition.
                            You mean this class? (See attachment) Thought my car would not be considered legal for that class
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                            #20 SMF Civic - Lacy Ingle
                            http://www.CivicPerformanceParts.com

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                            • #59
                              No, the tire PAX class. You would run TSMF, so you'd get the SMF PAX modifier, but you would run against others on street tires in different classes. the same goes for the Pro class, but you're not limited to street tires.
                              Matt W.
                              18 SM - Lancer Evolution MR
                              15 MR - Volkswagen Beetle
                              Sponsors: Satellite Racing - Defined Performance

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by TouringBubble View Post
                                No, the tire PAX class. You would run TSMF, so you'd get the SMF PAX modifier, but you would run against others on street tires in different classes. the same goes for the Pro class, but you're not limited to street tires.
                                Oh, lol, got excited there for a minute. Solo has more classes than the University of Alabama. I may just stick to running straight SM. I'm learning this stuff slowly but surely.
                                #20 SMF Civic - Lacy Ingle
                                http://www.CivicPerformanceParts.com

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