Atlanta Schedule

[engled]

March 7th Points 1 Six Flag East
March 27 TBD Turner Field
March 28th Points 2 Turner Field
April 11th Points 3 Turner Field
April 24th TBD Turner Field
April 25th Points 4 Turner Field
May 9th Points 5 Turner Field
June 13th Points 6 Turner Field
June 27th Points 7 AMS
August 21st TBD Turner Field
August 22nd Points 8 Turner
Oct 3rd Points 9 AMS
Oct 16th Points 10 Turner (pending playoffs)
Oct 17th Champion of Champions Turner (pending playoffs)

Thanks Sean for the up date.

[JohnW8]

Sweet... No conflicts

[Cholewa]

What is TBD?

[JohnW8]

What is TBD?

To be determined.

May be a few novice school or other special events.

[engled]

Sweet... No conflicts

I think was mainly due to our brilliant schedule maker.

[chuck schultz]

Sweet... No conflicts

Heh. Yeah, right.

[engled]

Heh. Yeah, right.

No conflict with what matters .

[Cholewa]

To be determined.

May be a few novice school or other special events.

I figured that's what it was but it didn't make sense to me to plan a date and not know what is going to happen. But I guess I see that they can put on other stuff in those time slots, and just let people know they have the lot on that day.

[chuck schultz]

No conflict with what matters.

Don't get me started about what matters, either on a personal level or as a Club.

Remembering off the top of my head, they're stepping on several SCCA events from other SEDiv Regions, including two hillclimbs, another TT or two, and the 25th anniversary celebration for the Spec Racer at Road Atlanta. The last will be hurting for volunteers, already, because it's the same weekend as the GP of AL, and lots of folks will want to be in Birmingham for that.

A small number of Solo participants get involved with other activities of the Club, but those few shouldn't have to choose between running in a points event in a series they are running and either helping or participating in another type of motorsport sanctioned nearby by the same sanctioning body (SCCA.)

[engled]

Don't get me started about what matters, either on a personal level or as a Club.

Remembering off the top of my head, they're stepping on several SCCA events from other SEDiv Regions, including two hillclimbs, another TT or two, and the 25th anniversary celebration for the Spec Racer at Road Atlanta. The last will be hurting for volunteers, already, because it's the same weekend as the GP of AL, and lots of folks will want to be in Birmingham for that.

A small number of Solo participants get involved with other activities of the Club, but those few shouldn't have to choose between running in a points event in a series they are running and either helping or participating in another type of motorsport sanctioned nearby by the same sanctioning body (SCCA.)

I guess emoticons are just lost on some people...

[JohnW8]

Simply put there are only so many weekends throughout the year to put on events. Conflicts WILL happen. The only way to get around it is to have a Divisional Solo program and drop all the regional solo events. The SEDIV could put on events in each region and folks would have to travel to compete for points. Since that is a highly unlikely scenario, we end up stepping on toes. I hate it, I literally hate having conflicts but until someone can extend the year so every event in every region can be thoroughly attended without conflict it's the system we have.

My comment regarding "no conflicts" was in relation to our solo program.

[claym]

Don't get me started about what matters, either on a personal level or as a Club.



A small number of Solo participants get involved with other activities of the Club, but those few shouldn't have to choose between running in a points event in a series they are running and either helping or participating in another type of motorsport sanctioned nearby by the same sanctioning body (SCCA.)

So how would YOU solve the scheduling conflicts with ALL areas of motorsports?

I feel sure people are doing the best they can to minimize conflicts, but a plan to eliminate ALL conflicts would be a win-win for all. Personally, I think the volunteers that have worked hard on this have done an excellent job, and I thank them for their hard work...

[pinkwheels]

Don't get me started about what matters, either on a personal level or as a Club.

Remembering off the top of my head, they're stepping on several SCCA events from other SEDiv Regions, including two hillclimbs, another TT or two, and the 25th anniversary celebration for the Spec Racer at Road Atlanta. The last will be hurting for volunteers, already, because it's the same weekend as the GP of AL, and lots of folks will want to be in Birmingham for that.

A small number of Solo participants get involved with other activities of the Club, but those few shouldn't have to choose between running in a points event in a series they are running and either helping or participating in another type of motorsport sanctioned nearby by the same sanctioning body (SCCA.)

First off the Spec Racer celebration is being sanction by SCCA enterprises not Atlanta Region/SCCA Club Racing; Atlanta Region has no involvement in that race. Secondly our aim is to not overlap any SCCA National events, Pro Solos or Divisional Solo events as a vast amount of our Solo members attend these events.Thirdly with our sites it's virtually impossible to not schedule over something that is happening in an adjoining region as we have to contend with the Braves schedule at Turner, the Six Flags park season and the Nascar schedule at AMS.

I agree it's not fair that a few have to choose between events however we can't sacrifce our solo series over 5% or less of participants. Also keep in mind our series is designed to allow for 'drops' as people will also have conflicts with some dates (vacation, work etc).

[chuck schultz]

I apologize to Atlanta Region, because I was actually reacting to comments here that there were no meaningful conflicts, when I knew full well that some of our folks were planning on running hillclimbs and TTs, and one or more of us will be working the Spec Racer weekend. The emoticon was ambiguous, and, after holding back earlier in this thread and elsewhere, I made my semi-annual rant about schedules.

First off the Spec Racer celebration is being sanction by SCCA enterprises not Atlanta Region/SCCA Club Racing; Atlanta Region has no involvement in that race.

Actually, this is an SCCA Pro Racing sanction, perhaps on behalf of Enterprises, and being organized by Ken Grammer, who tells me that Atlanta SCCA is providing corner workers. That's been confirmed by Bob McColl, and the event is listed on the Region's calendar, here - http://www.atlantascca.org/schedules/arscca.html .

our aim is to not overlap any SCCA National events, Pro Solos or Divisional Solo events as a vast amount of our Solo members attend these events.Thirdly with our sites it's virtually impossible to not schedule over something that is happening in an adjoining region as we have to contend with the Braves schedule at Turner, the Six Flags park season and the Nascar schedule at AMS.

I agree it's not fair that a few have to choose between events however we can't sacrifce our solo series over 5% or less of participants. Also keep in mind our series is designed to allow for 'drops' as people will also have conflicts with some dates (vacation, work etc).

I understand that the size, venues and the scope of the Atlanta Region Solo program, combined with a very strong group of participants who regularly participate in Divisional, Pro and National events does make scheduling difficult. I can see that there is less conflict with the Atlanta Region Club Racing schedule, this year, than there has been a couple of other years, so that's definitely an improvement.

Before the Atlanta Region Solo program grew to its current level, there was an annual pilgrimage to Talladega Gran Prix for a Solo, and there seemed to be more folks traveling back and forth between Birmingham and Atlanta to run both series. However, with Atlanta's current schedule of over a dozen events per year, there's not much time to travel to other Regions.

Finally, concerning the drops, at the level some of these folks are competing, I figure that any time you let a competitor have another crack at some points, you'd better be there to match 'em at least.

It's very cool that Atlanta has such a strong Solo community. I just fear that some folks will not realize all that the Club has to offer, and think that Club Racing, RallyX, TT, Hillclimbs, PDX, and Rally are just things to read about in SportsCar.

[chuck schultz]

So how would YOU solve the scheduling conflicts with ALL areas of motorsports?

I was referring specifically to SCCA events, only. I'd at least look at the SEDiv Club Racing calendar, which includes TTs and Hillclimbs, and has been known to a certain extent for several months, and at the schedule of any nearby tracks that have SCCA events.

Personally, I think the volunteers that have worked hard on this have done an excellent job, and I thank them for their hard work...

I didn't intend to be unappreciative. I thank them, too, because the programs wouldn't exist without leadership.