Future PDX dates

[dr_phatcity]

As far as I can tell, the schedules for HPDE/PDX (sorry SCCA) events at Barber in 2009 are still in the development stage:

March 7 and 8 is a Porsche HPDE at Barber (maybe - details are fuzzy)
Heart of Dixie BMW CCA is having an event at Barber Aug 22,23rd

Other than that, I can't find any other track day events at Barber and the event link isn't working. Any one else know of other events in the area?

-J

[chuck schultz]

FWIW, PDX is a registered trade mark of SCCA.

Track day is a good generic term for what you are talking about.

It's not linked from anywhere on their website, yet, so this is probably tentative -

http://www.barbermotorsports.com/events.php

Here's the TGPR schedule, too - http://www.tgprace.com/TGPR-dates.htm

This website usually has a pretty comprehensive list of stuff going on, although it's a little early, right now - http://www.trackschedule.com/sched.html

[dr_phatcity]

hmm

I didn't know that about PDX. The first event I went to was a PDX so, they have all been PDXs to me.

Thanks. I edited my post.

-Jamie

[87RX7RACER]

I wonder if Road Atlanta has any DE events scheduled for next year?

[chuck schultz]

Every SCCA Club Racing weekend at Road Atlanta has a 2-session PDX scheduled on Sunday, during "quiet hours." Also, there are PDXes scheduled at Rockingham, Carolina Motorsports Park, and Sebring, IIRC. The official SEDiv schedule is located here - http://www.sedivracing.org/2009Schedule.pdf - Note that this is tentative until after the late January annual meeting, but it's a pretty good picture of what's going on there.

Here's what Road Atlanta's showing publicly, right now. I'm sure there will also be BMWCCA, PCA and additional NASA events on the schedule, eventually - http://www.roadatlanta.com/events.lasso .

Additionally, if you work as a volunteer at an SCCA Club Racing Weekend at Road Atlanta, you will get your choice of either a reimbursement for some of your expenses or partial credit for a PDX entry fee. Some other clubs have incentive programs, as well.

[dr_phatcity]

Here is a partial list:

FYI: Comments in parenthesis are not mine. Can discuss more in person if interested. Comments not in parenthesis are mine; again can discuss more in person if interested.


Road Atlanta:
Mar 7-8: BMWCCA Peachtree Road Atlanta
Mar 13-14-15: NASA
June 6-7: PCA Peachstate Road Atlanta
Jul 4-5: BMWCCA Peachtree Road Atlanta
Aug 7-9: NASA
Aug 15-16: PCA Peachstate Road Atlanta
Sep 19-20: BMWCCA Peachtree Road Atlanta
Oct 17-18-19: NASA
Oct 24-25: PCA Peachstate Road Atlanta
Dec 4-6: NASA

Barber:
March 7 -8: Alabama PCA ("Alabama PCA is DEFINITELY NOT recommended .... they had their credentials pulled")
March 28-29: PBOC ("I've run with them, not very organized, but lot's of track time--not really recommended for less than Experts and you really have to watch everyone even then" Taken from another forum)
May 30-31: NASA
Aug 22,23rd: Heart of Dixie BMW CCA, This was an AWESOME event last year, I went. Hot as all get out, but super fun!!
Aug. 29,30: AL BMW CCA
Nov 15-15: PBOC

ALA BMW usually runs an event at Barbers over memorial day, but is not going to run one this year.

TGPR:
April 18,19: ALSCCA????
May 2nd: Heart of Dixie PCA Excellent Event. strongly recommended.

Memphis:
Apr 26-27: Midsouth PCA
Sep 12-13: Midsouth PCA

[chuck schultz]

The May event (Barber Sportscar Classic) is NASA.

I don't know what the Alabama PCA comment really means. It seems like all of the clubs on your list have had average to excellent events over the last few years. None seemed unsafe as a group.

The April 18-19 at TGPR is our Track Trials/School. I'll be begging for workers for that event in a couple months.

I've never been to a Memphis event, so I can't comment on those. I know SCCA runs some club races there, too.

[EWaugh]

My experiance with PCA is that they can be a little special.

I have absolutely no problem with PBOC, and would recommend them.

I would not recommend NASA for DE 1-2.

[farrout]

ALBMWCCA does not allow convertibles of any type. Even a Spec Miata (ie, convertible with a hard top and a roll cage)

[chuck schultz]

PCA . . . can be a little special.

Well, they do call their students "pilots."

no problem with PBOC

Even their slow groups seem pretty fast from trackside. A never-ever might be intimidated.

I would not recommend NASA for DE 1-2.

Why? I know they have big, mixed groups, and a crowded schedule, but you learn patience and traffic management pretty quickly. I've had good instruction from them, too.

[EWaugh]

For the most part the same instructors instruct for a lot of different groups, I'm one of 'em. One problem is that if you have a faster 2 student they have to spend more time waiting to pass than driving, and on the other side the slower ones end up spending more time letting others by than driving. Usually, you cannot sign off a 2 student and bump them to 3, because that's full.

It's almost like they're too small to run a weekend for RR and a weedend for DE/TT, but too big not to.

[dr_phatcity]

I don't know what the Alabama PCA comment really means. It seems like all of the clubs on your list have had average to excellent events over the last few years. None seemed unsafe as a group.

The parenthetical quotes are not mine. I have yet to confirm that Porsche Club of America has actually taken action against this group; but some of the reports about this group were somewhat concerning and I felt at least somewhat obligated to share what I had heard. The comments should be taken with a large dose of salt, but I'm likely not going to attend that event because of it.

[dr_phatcity]

Thoughts

My experiance with PCA is that they can be a little special.

I have absolutely no problem with PBOC, and would recommend them.

I would not recommend NASA for DE 1-2.

From comments on other forums, it sounds like PBOC can have people who are aggressive in traffic. Have you seen this at all?

[farrout]

In the past, your chances of actually getting in a PCA HPDE were pretty slim. They open the registration to PCA members before the general public. You had to have a Porsche VIN to become a PCA member. Events were usually filled up by members. If you were close enough to the track, you could show up and see if anyone failed to arrive.

On the other hand, BMWCCA lets anyone join. They also open registration up to members first. They really loved it when a 93 RX7 showed up to Road Atlanta to do their HPDEs.

[EWaugh]

I: haven't seen that in the lower groups. I've been aggressive before in the instructor group. There was this C6 ZO6 that was holding my little civic up once that I really wanted to tap. Then there is alwasy David L being, well, David L. One thing I've found, espically with faster cars that come up behind you, is if you wave so that they know you see them they don't feel they need to pressure you to get the pass.